Posts by The Fall Guy

i am disfellowshipped and have been going back for well over a year now but because its not my 1st time it will be a bit longer before i will write my letter, would really love to find others in my area who are in the same situation as some many know its very isolating, not mixing with worldly people and not being allowed to be with family and friends can take its toll on a person, just wondering if there is anyone in perth wa that would like to get together for a coffee, movie ect .

The Fall Guy

Hi Tartan, if you're looking for support, information, and discussions about what's going on with the organization, hang around and share your story.

As a former Ministerial Servant, I had a rude awakening by two different bodies of Elders which prodded me into studying the teachings a lot more than we were ever told to.

If you'd like to hear anything of the many results of my several years of research, click the little envelope at the top of the page and send me a private message. If you are frightened to discuss such things, I understand.

I know exactly how the inbuilt fear works. Whatever, I wish you well in your life.

I'm in Scotland.

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First Brexit, is SCOTCH-EXIT next?

by The Fall Guy in

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mrs. may-hem seems happy to allow the no-deal scenario to go ahead if her deal isn't accepted.. if that scenario occurs, we can expect yet another push for a referendum to vote for scotland's "independence.

" independence would simply mean replacing the overlords of the westminster parliament with a new set of overlords in brussels, because the scottish national party is desperate to join the eu.

"independence" is so liberating!.

The Fall Guy

Mrs. MAY-hem seems happy to allow the no-deal scenario to go ahead if her deal isn't accepted.

If that scenario occurs, we can expect yet another push for a referendum to vote for Scotland's "independence." Independence would simply mean replacing the overlords of the Westminster parliament with a new set of overlords in Brussels, because the Scottish National Party is desperate to join the EU. "Independence" is so liberating!

Then the real fun would begin: Would Hadrian's Wall be rebuilt to create a hard border between Scotland and England, or would there be another 2 years of negotiations to create an Anglo-Scot backstop? Also what currency would Scotland have to adopt?

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Great Announcement

by Tiana in

am a newcomer.

had a starnge metting in local news last night.. check it out.

actual info starts at 50;12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxdjs13l0k.

The Fall Guy

The "end of the world" Local Needs" starts at 50 mins 33 secs.

Coming soon - to a Kingdom Hall near you.

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Beware of divulging any personal info on this site!

by Crazyguy2 in

hey this is crazyguy, forgot my password so this is my new name.

anyway be sure to all you new ones that if you post any personal info on this forum or respond to pms asking for email addresses this information maybe able to be used by wt spies to try and find out who you are!

someone has recently pmd me asking for my email address or more accurately to respond to his email address which would give him mine, this maybe an innocent request but this person also has no posting history.

The Fall Guy

The hierarchy within the WTBTS is imitating the M.O. of the Spanish Inquisition, the McCarthy witch-hunts, and Nazi Germany, namely, to plant spies everywhere in order to instil fear and obedience as a means of silencing genuine and sincere individuals who recognise that the organisation is anything but "the truth."

It's a dead certainty that the cult has spies monitoring this site just as they do with YouTube etc. So if anyone requests your private details or email etc., cut them dead!

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Should I do this?

by CivilServant79 in

hi there this is my first post as i’m not sure what to do.

my family (both sides) are well known in our circuit and very dedicated to the truth.

but we’re relatively normal people and i love them all so much.

The Fall Guy

Say nothing incriminating to anyone, especially your uncle. One witness can secretly record anything you divulge and then the Judicial Committee can get you.

Try the following if the wolves come looking for you:

"Thank you for your concerns brothers, but there's nothing private & personal which I wish to discuss with anyone at the moment, but I appreciate your motives and concern. If things change, I will definitely call you."

Conversation Stoppers:

1) "We only want to come and give you encouragement." = Simply repeat the response above!

2) "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?" = "Everyone has private & personal issues which they can't discuss with others as I'm sure even elders do - I'm no different!"

3) Are you refusing to talk with us? = "No, I just don't want to discuss things right now. But it's good to know that I can call you if things change."

If they persist with their interrogation, just say 'thanks', and walk away - immediately! Do not prolong their interrogation. They can't punish you for ending a conversation!

Repeat any/all of the above to anyone who tries to extract information from you, because the Elders will get someone you trust to try and get the information out of you!

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Mt: 24/luke 21 does not have a 2nd fulfillment!

by nowwhat? in

the bible clearly says a generation is 40 years (exodus and job) the 1st half of the last century saw wars, famines, pestilence.

if 1914 was the correct starting date the end should have came by the mid 1950's ( which the witnesses believed at the time) this fact alone proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

jesus was only speaking of the events of the 1st century..

The Fall Guy

The H8ful8 in Warwick dictate that Matthew 24 has a "greater fulfilment" - and it's coming soon!

Jesus said this at Matthew 24:21 - “....for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.”

Which part of "nor will occur again" does the self-appointed "slave" (and JW's) not understand?

How can something which Jesus said would not occur again, have a "greater fulfilment?

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Ignorance of Watchtower doctrine among young JW's

by nicolaou in

i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.

if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.

it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.

The Fall Guy

Just young JW's?

Previously stated experience: I asked an elder at a trolley why his literature stated that some resurrected people would be allowed to practice vile things during Christ's 1000 year reign - based on their interpretation of John 5:28,29.

He vehemently denied such a thing was said in his literature - he'd never read that anywhere. When confronted with the proof, his wriggling and squirming and double-speak were a joy to behold.

Elders are as ignorant as the minions they subvert.

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Could/should JW Lawyer be punished for deceiving the Judge?

by The Fall Guy in

in an attempt to disparage a faded jw and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the jw.borg web site to the new york judge when he wrote, .

"disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "the religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.

the marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.

The Fall Guy

Zeb - I think lawyers do a good enough job of giving themselves a bad name! :)